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Postby YLLA 88 » Sat Sep 13, 2008 7:21 pm

Not sure how much faith I'd put in this, because I got the information from a Car Salesman and you know what they say about those blokes...... But while I was at the one of the local Wollongong Holden Dealerships today I got talking to a new sales bloke and he hold me that they are in final negotiations with G.M. in the states and hopeful to be selling new C6 Corvette's and Camaro's in mid to late 2009!
How good would that be?:-w :-w :-w :-w :-w :-w

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Postby DOC » Sun Sep 14, 2008 4:49 am

And by that, are we to assume that they will produce RHD cars as well?

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Postby YLLA 88 » Sun Sep 14, 2008 8:55 am

DOC wrote:And by that, are we to assume that they will produce RHD cars as well?


Yeah Doc,

He said ready to drive off the showroom floor! :o

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Postby nifty » Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:52 am

BIG mistake imho.... the corvette will lose some of its exclusiveness.....
if joe blow can go to the showroom floor and buy a new vette,i believe the car will turn into a fatcats "must have " excessory....
it will become like a modern day harley....something for the yuppie crowd,
more lawyers and accountants will buy and drive the vette,same as the harley.... which will be a shame as they are not true harley enthusists, and i can see the vette becoming the same thing....

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Postby australi » Sun Sep 14, 2008 12:21 pm

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Postby DOC » Sun Sep 14, 2008 12:39 pm

In the entire history of the Corvette. Never have they built a RHD car. To think that now they will is very interesting. But why is it I have heard nothing about this from Bowling green? I will call (Ring) over there on Monday and ask some questions!

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Postby gtc » Sun Sep 14, 2008 12:43 pm

Well, we know about Camaros, of course.

I think the Corvette story is salesman bollocks. If GM were planning to build an RHD Vette for 2009, it would have been in the motoring news long before this.

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Postby DOC » Sun Sep 14, 2008 12:49 pm

My thoughts exactly! I get a news letter from bowling green monthly. And there always talking about all the latest news. But no mention of building a RHD car.

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Postby silver383 » Sun Sep 14, 2008 1:11 pm

Well I think it's overdue!
look how Chrysler has turned it sales around

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Postby nifty » Sun Sep 14, 2008 3:32 pm

DOC wrote:In the entire history of the Corvette. Never have they built a RHD car. To think that now they will is very interesting. But why is it I have heard nothing about this from Bowling green? I will call (Ring) over there on Monday and ask some questions!
ey did im sure build 3 i believe....as a trial effort to export them,but the decision was turned around.....i wonder what happened to them.... i THINK they were either late c3 or early c4.

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Postby Panther » Sun Sep 14, 2008 6:15 pm

won't happen, the market is not big enough HVS tried that with C5, brought 3 of our kits did the conversions sold them off and pulled out, will they do a C6 not bloody likley, do you have any idea what it would cost GM to set up for RHD and maybe sell 10 a year, bah

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Postby YLLA 88 » Sun Sep 14, 2008 6:36 pm

australi wrote:* Topic moved to '6th Gen discussion'.


I'm still having troubles working out why you'd move my post Austy? it's not about C6 it's a general car talk. :?: :?: :?:

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Postby Unsprung » Sun Sep 14, 2008 7:13 pm

gtc wrote:Well, we know about Camaros, of course.

I think the Corvette story is salesman bollocks. If GM were planning to build an RHD Vette for 2009, it would have been in the motoring news long before this.


DOC wrote:My thoughts exactly! I get a news letter from bowling green monthly. And there always talking about all the latest news. But no mention of building a RHD car.


A)


The C6 was never engineered for RHD build at the factory. Although such an engineering program can be done now, after the fact, it would cost tens of millions of dollars and it would have a pay-back period of only two or three model years (before the C7 would launch).

Like many auto makers, GM offers time-limited financial incentives for consumers to buy. These incentives had always excluded a small handful of exceptional GM vehicles such as the Corvette. Now, however, you can not only purchase a new LS3-powered C6 at the insider price allowed to GM employees, you can also have five years of financing at zero percent interest.

This does not sound like a company that would invest in a late-stage RHD program.

I suppose that we could be wrong, but late-stage and unannounced RHD for the C6 would be an astonishing move at this time.

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Postby 69 DIRTY RAT » Sun Sep 14, 2008 8:19 pm

Yeah I highly doubt it as well! Why would you spend all that money to develop the RHD! You'd sell probably 50 vettes a year here, maybe a few more in Japan , no one would buy them in England because you'd have to pay much more to get the same thing in LHD! Even if they did sell them here, you are still gunna pay top dollar as you do now!

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Postby Unsprung » Sun Sep 14, 2008 8:56 pm

I believe that the C7 will be available in RHD. I hope it will!

This can make economic sense when engineering a new vehicle and when pooling the value of AU, NZ, UK, JP, SA markets.

And you're right that it'll still be expensive. In the UK, the C6 in LHD is running about 100 percent *more* versus the same vehicle in the US. That's insane.

(what it actually tells us is that the market in the UK is overpriced to begin with; it doesn't cost 100 percent more to sell and service the C6 in the UK; GM is just going along with the status quo and enjoying the fat margins)

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Postby Unsprung » Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:03 pm

I should mention also taxes in the UK. Along with prevailing market forces, taxes undoubtedly account for a portion of the price difference versus the US.

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Postby Unsprung » Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:19 pm

Okay, two more scenarios that might be crazy... but not impossible:

1. All RHD Corvettes will be hand-remanufactured in Australia from OEM LHD units shipped directly from Bowling Green; these are then sent around the world, as needed.

2. The C7 will use an improved version of the C6 chassis and, therefore, investing in a RHD C6 is helpful to this evolution.

If I recall correctly, the first scenario may have been discussed a bit on this forum.

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Postby gtc » Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:52 pm

The very least GM could do is design the C7 so that it can be mirror converted (at best) by those who could be bothered. Go to Japan and see how it's done.

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Postby silver383 » Mon Sep 15, 2008 9:05 am

It seems strange how G.M.H can afford to make lhd commodores [GTO's] and send them to the U.S.A but GM can't send anything decent over here RHD.
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Postby nifty » Mon Sep 15, 2008 9:13 am

silver383 wrote:It seems strange how G.M.H can afford to make lhd commodores [GTO's] and send them to the U.S.A but GM can't send anything decent over here RHD.
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and not just that dave, HOLDEN MAKE A BETTER CAR LHD FOR THE USA MARKET..... they get more specs than aussies do.

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Postby australi » Mon Sep 15, 2008 9:46 am

silver383 wrote:It seems strange how G.M.H can afford to make lhd commodores [GTO's] and send them to the U.S.A but GM can't send anything decent over here RHD.


...I'd put THAT fairly & squarely on our wonderful IMPORT DUTIES.

*Note: I have just posted this question as a new topic of interest;
http://www.australiancorvettesassociati ... 5bc5#37296

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Postby Panther » Mon Sep 15, 2008 8:09 pm

its all about sale quanity nothing else, think about it, and stop going on about it

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Postby jasont » Tue Sep 16, 2008 12:56 am

Panther wrote:its all about sale quanity nothing else, think about it, and stop going on about it


So true, the yanks purchase cars in such large quantities everything is simply cheaper. Just wait until the average citizen in China or India can one day afford decent cars. They will be fierce car markets in the future, no idea when.

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Postby gtc » Tue Sep 16, 2008 12:58 am

jasont wrote:
Panther wrote:its all about sale quanity nothing else, think about it, and stop going on about it


So true, they yanks purchase cars in such big quantities everything is simply cheaper. Just wait until the average citizen in China or India can one day afford decent cars. They will be fierce car markets in the future, no idea when.


Saw something recently that predicted, at current rate of growth, that it will take China just 20 years to have as many cars on its roads as the USA has today. :shock:

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Postby jasont » Tue Sep 16, 2008 1:00 am

gtc wrote:Saw something recently that predicted, at current rate of growth, that it will take China just 20 years to have as many cars on its roads as the USA has today. :shock:


Wow, OK it might take them awhile then.

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Postby gtc » Tue Sep 16, 2008 1:01 am

jasont wrote:
gtc wrote:Saw something recently that predicted, at current rate of growth, that it will take China just 20 years to have as many cars on its roads as the USA has today. :shock:


Wow, OK it might take them awhile then.


Not that long when you consider it took USA a century to reach its numbers.

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Postby australi » Tue Sep 16, 2008 9:34 am

gtc wrote:Saw something recently that predicted, at current rate of growth, that it will take China just 20 years to have as many cars on its roads as the USA has today. :shock:


WOW - REALLY :?: :?: :?: :shock:
I would NOT have thought THAT! :shock:

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Postby steves87 » Tue Sep 16, 2008 9:24 pm

Unsprung wrote:I believe that the C7 will be available in RHD. I hope it will!

This can make economic sense when engineering a new vehicle and when pooling the value of AU, NZ, UK, JP, SA markets.

And you're right that it'll still be expensive. In the UK, the C6 in LHD is running about 100 percent *more* versus the same vehicle in the US. That's insane.

(what it actually tells us is that the market in the UK is overpriced to begin with; it doesn't cost 100 percent more to sell and service the C6 in the UK; GM is just going along with the status quo and enjoying the fat margins)


i totally agree here, uk and jp alone would have been enough to warrant it.... i would have thought.
ive heard rumours about the c7 being engineered for it, would make sense, but the rumours ive heard are totally un-official.


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